In this episode of the Fully Integrated Leadership podcast I interview David Stroh, author of one of my favorite books Systems Thinking for Social Change.”  David is a humble and courageous soul who is helping to bring a new way of thinking to the world as we navigate increasingly more VUCA (Volatile, Uncertain, Complex, Ambiguous) challenges.  He has dedicated his career to mostly helping organizations who are attempting to impact social challenges like homelessness, environmental degradation, and poverty.

In this interview, we cover a range of topics including:

  • How David’s background as an urban planner helped pave the way for his life’s work as a Systems Thinker
  • What Systems Thinking is and how it can be used to tackle complex challenges
  • The difference between “Static Complexity” and “Dynamic Complexity”
  • The application of Systems Thinking to the issue of homelessness
  • The “intangibles” that David feels are needed to be a Systems Thinker
  • The barriers we all have to being Systems Thinkers when tackling complex issues

You can find David’s book Here

You can read more about David and his work at Bridgeway Partners Here

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